Why Do People Have A Problem With Designer Breeds?
Posted by: Alan in Dog Health Problem, tags: Breeds, Designer, Have, People, Problem, With
We have engineered every type of dog we can think of, as humans. A boxer came from a Mastiff and a bulldog. A Boston Terrier from an English terrier and a bulldog. So why do people get all bent out of shape over hybrids? I didn’t buy a Buggs (Boston/Pug) because I think it’s worth money. I bought it because I knew what I would be getting as far as size and personality. Plus, it’s cheaper than getting a purebred Pug or Boston, which I would have neutered or spayed anyway. Yes, they could have health problems, possibly the worst of either breed, but don’t most dogs have health problems at some point? Especially purebred (fancy name for imbred) dogs. I just think all you hybrid haters should chill. By the way, I LOVE my Bugg. I recommend everyone get a hybrid.
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:01 am
A dog is a dog. They all have the same dog DNA that their particular ancestors had. Mix or breed makes no difference as long as they fulfill their purpose of pleasing their owner. Saying one is better than another is hogwash. There is nothing wrong with “designer” breeds any more than there is anything wrong with “purebreds”. Designer breeds get bad press simply because they don’t have a “club” doing PR for them like purebreds have.
The downfall of purebreds is that their genetic pool is severely limited which causes more health problems. I have had both. And both are simply dogs. A mixed breed huge dog with muscle can pull a cart as well as a Burmese. A small mixed breed with a good prey drive can sniff out varmints as well as a beagle. It just depends on the drives and abilities of the individual dog whether it be a champion or a designer.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
“Buggs” are not hybrids. the definition of a hybrid is 2 different SPECIES (dog + wolf = hybrid).
defintion of a mutt is 2 different BREEDS (Boston Terrier + pug = MUTT).
i have 13 assorted MUTTS, all rescues. and i don’t try to put cutesy names on them to make myself feel better. i’m here to take care of the mutts and i wouldn’t have it any other way.
the biggest problem with designer mutts, is they were bred for the sole purpose of parting fools from their money.
November 7th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I don’t have a problem with hybrid dog breeds but I don’t think saying purebred dogs are inbred is going to get your point across in an educated manner. You started off your fight very well and educated and then had to go for a immature punch…that doesn’t help you. I am glad you love your dog but Boston Terriers are the ugliest dogs on the face of the earth, crossing them with the second ugliest dog on the face of the earth would only result in THE UGLIEST DOG IN THE GALAXY….ok now I am immature and feel like I belong posted here!
November 7th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Most of my problem is that breeders of these hybrid dogs do not know the first thing about breeding. They don’t know if their dogs are carrying genetic issues and they don’t normally test each puppy for health problems. They just put two dogs together on a whim to get puppies to sell.
If they were to do everything correctly excluding breed, I’d have no problem.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:53 am
I have had dogs all my life. None of them have been purebred. None of them have come from breeders. They were all adopted from the local humane society or pound. My problem is not with “designer breeds”. My issue is with people who breed dogs for no reason other than money when there are so many dogs in shelters that need homes. If there were no dogs in shelters, then I would have no problem with breeders breeding more dogs. Why breed more dogs when there are not enough homes for the ones that are already here?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:04 am
My problem with “designer dogs” isn’t the dog themselves.
It’s with the idiots who thought it would be a good idea to breed mutts, make up a great sounding name for them, and sell them at outrageously high prices.
I want a mix breed dog, I go to the pound and save one’s life.
There are ENOUGH dogs without stupid breeders and buyers of these so called designer dogs.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Designer breeds are expensive. They are F1 crosses, its not the cross or the dogs that annoy me but the way some people are taken in by the term designer.
Also there is no consistency in look or temperament even from the same litter.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
We don’t have a problem with mutts (hybrids are mixes of two species; designer dogs are mutts). We have a problem with unscrupulous breeding, which is 100% of designer mutt breeding and 95%+ of purebred breeding.
I have two mutts, they are beautiful, wonderful dogs. While I am happy that they were born, I am not happy that every one of their litter mates died because some jerk decided that it would be kewl/profitable/whatever to breed his dog.
Take a look at how many of those designer dogs are in shelters sometime…
ETA: Exactly, mutts are fabulous and need homes, which is PRECISELY WHY ONE SHOULD NOT INTENTIONALLY CREATE MORE OF THEM JUST TO TURN A BUCK.
4 million homeless dogs are killed each year in the U.S.
8 million homeless dogs are currently in shelters.
Roughly 75% of these are mutts.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Yes. Their fashion is so hideous it has to be changed every six months.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
I agree mutts are great dogs. It isnt the dogs that we hate.
It is the breeders dumping them at a shelter if they dont sell that we hate.
Add: ***This is what we hate: http://www.komonews.com/news/38281439.ht…
1500 more dogs in rescues that we dont need in the world.
I would go get a cockapoo at the shelter if I wanted a cockapoo. But never from a breeder. No registry for any of the poos or oodles. A tamaskan is a dog I would consider either way because their registry is legit and their club of america site is legit.
I am guardian to three mutts and love them to death. My problem is the people producing them in the first place. Not the breeders going about their business not causing me a problem. Responsible breeders do not cross those lines when it comes to their maybe one every year to two year breeding.
Its the mills producing from first heat on and everytime until the dog cant anymore. When she is done, she gets trashed. Nothing more than money seeking.
Yes all pure breeds were bred from other breeds. Thing is the standard allows them to be recognizable. The boxer always looks like a boxer, the mastiff always looks like a mastiff and each one had a purpose for being breed. Aussies herd, bloodhounds hunt, dachshunds hunt for badgers, beagles go for rabbits, sled dogs, etc. Each one has a reason for being here now. None of them are here based soley on looks.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Because they are not breeds. They’re mutts. We don’t have a problem with the dogs. It is with the ignorant people who don’t understand, or refuse to absorb in their tiny heads that breeds have standards, and mutts do not. So, you miss the point.
The fact that you got ripped off by a backyard breeder is so fatuous, because you shouldn’t have to buy a cheap mix. You didn’t buy anything special, you bought a mutt. You provided an incentive for the irresponsible BYB to continue sending more mutts to the shelter to die, and ruining breeds. You didn’t deter this person from continuing to add to the runaway dog population.
And a hybrid animal is sterile. Think Liger or Mule. When dogs mate with another dog, they produce a fertile animal. Do you see what I mean about you people?!
November 9th, 2009 at 3:55 am
I would be ashamed to call my dog a Bugg. It is a Boston/Pug cross. Do not kid yourself the cross breeds don’t have health problems. Pure breeds are breeding to eliminate them. A puppy mill or BYB that your dog came from just doesn’t care. The worst quality of the pets are used for these “designer dogs” A reputable would not do it. I am not just a snob because I have papered Dachshunds. There are many accidental mutts in shelter looking for homes, maybe some Buggs. But their birth was an accident, not a purposeful thing. When you buy from these unethical people you just keep them doing it. I am sure that you love just as we do, and that you Bugg is cute, all dogs are. I just saddens me to think of mixed breed dogs in shelters who are unloved, because a designer dog breeder caught your eye first.
November 9th, 2009 at 5:05 am
I could have found you a Boston Terrier or a Pug in a rescue given a few months.
Alright, first, I love mutts. All of my dogs have been mutts.
Second, I am against taking two breeds of dogs and making up a ridiculously stupid name (Bugg?) to describe it, and then doing it again. I hate where they come from, which tends to be puppy mills and breeders who are only in it for the money. I hate the fact that they are not being bred towards a standard, and no one tests them for health issues or make sure that there’s no genetic issues being bred from the two different breeds. I hate the fact that I could have gone and gotten a mutt from the pound, saved it’s life, and donated the excess money, that someone spends on just one cross-breed. I hate the word hybrid… it’s a cross-breed. I hate that it supports people making more of them for no reason than to make a cutesy sounding breed.
I hate the myths. Like you saying you know what you’d get personality and size wise… you don’t. You don’t know what boston characteristics the dog would inherit, nor what pug characteristics. If you look up labradoodles, you’ll find that in some places they actually try to breed towards a standard so that they can guess what physical characteristics will come. Personality is not bred for, but the places that usually cross-breed dogs typically don’t care about socialization and making sure the dog gets the best behavioral care which fosters wonderful personalities.
Now… congrats on your dog, he’s probably a dear. And prayers for your hubby, I hope he does well. I know someone who bought a mixed-breed (several breeds) from someone for close to a thousand dollars, and it was worth it because the puppy had had so much training from day one that it was extremely socialized and had been bred towards a smaller size. It wasn’t a recognized breed… but it also wasn’t sold for it’s silly name.
I am not calling your dog bad. Or your hubby’s choice bad. But look up puppy-mills and back-yard breeders. They’re typically where these designer breeds are coming from.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Facts silly, you need facts before you make a rant post.
1. Hybrid is the mixture of two different species- Two breeds of dogs make a mixed breed, not a hybrid.
2. Yes we have made ton of breeds- Indeed there’s no reason we need any more.
A popular example is the “labradoodle”- Need a low allergen service dog? You got the poodle. Want a Retriever with the Poodle’s curly coat? That’s what the Curly-Coated Retriever is.
Indeed if the people breeding these dogs were interested in making a new breed even they would have registries in place, standards, a breeding program, be doing health tests, and working on making dogs that breed true to that standard- Their not therefore their just in it for the cash hun.
3. Mixed breeds can have any combination of the characteristics of the two parents, completely and utterly unpredictable- So how in the world did you magically predict the characteristics of your mix? Why didn’t you just adopt the same mix from your local shelter? (And don’t say “they didn’t have any” I can pull up tons of them on petfinder now)
4. Reputable breeders work on getting the health problems out of a breed by doing genetic health testing and only breeding the best of the best. Reputably bred purebred dogs are less likely to get health problems than any dogs out there- Poorly bred dogs be them purebred or not have a higher chance of medical issues, and mixes more so as the wider gene pool can allow more genetic issues to come through.
5. Mutts are great yes, but the only place you should ever get one is a shelter or rescue. There’s no reason for the exact same mix to be put down in a shelter while you pay tons of money to line some idiot’s pocket who is putting those dogs in the shelters in the first place.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Although many purebreds are mixes of others, they have 1000,s of years of genetic testing to remove chances of diseases and behavioral traits bring out only the best and then finally submitted all that genetic information you in effect close the registry, guidelines are established for the new purebreed and all breeding that follows are done exactly the same by every breeder,according to th registry. Designer breeds do NO testing at all, do not keep tract of anything, breed dogs to whoever and none of them communicate with each other. Its like the difference between a Rolls Royce and a Ford f100 in a junk yard that has a chevy engine,jimmy rigged parts and pieces throughout of auto zone parts and missing the tailgate and bumper.
November 9th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I personally just think its funny how easily people can be persuaded to buy mutts. I mean, most people have been trying to get purebred dogs and stay away from mutts and especially mutts in shelters. All the people had to do was slap a name like Bugg on it and it suddenly was desirable. People usually pay just as much for these mutts as the purebreds. If I were to get a mutt, I would look at the shelter where they are usually 3 times cheaper, and have all their shots and are fixed. But that’s just because I am not so stupid as to let society put “bugg” on a mutt so I will buy it. I guess some people just don’t use their brains…