Why Do People Say This Over And Over?
Posted by: Alan in Dog Health Problem, tags: Over, People, This
I don’t really think that “mutts” “mongrels” “Heinz 57’s” and Mixed breeds are healthier.
People say over and over, “There healthier because they are mixed together”…. Come one people!! Mixing two different dog breeds creates MORE health problems because every dog breed has a genetic type of health problem, and they are proned to more. Lets say a pugxbasset hound. Or as the designer breed, pugasset hound or whatever new silly name they came up with, the latest fad? Trend? Fewer health problems? WRONG! Pugs are proned to many allergies, and nostril problems, and bassets are proned to skeletal displasia.
Honestly, it is pretty stupid, how people who don’t know, will say something like that. Mixed breeds are not healthier than purebreds. If anything they are more unhealthy than anything.
If you disagree, don’t get “on my case” because you like mixed breeds, or “designer breeds” because this is proven, not one of your silly little theories. Anyone agree?
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February 9th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I agree. I prefer mixed breeds, because they’re unique, and are easy to find and won’t tear a hole in your pocket book.
But, I do not believe they’re at all healthier (or unhealthier) than a purebred. That all varies with the individual dog.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
I agree with you 100%. I like purebred dogs, because then you know what to expect. I really dislike this trend of mixing breeds without any types of controls, and selling the puppies as if they were purebred. The AKC and other kennel clubs encourage breeding for health and temperament, and reducing or eliminating congenital problems.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I love purebreds but dont get me wrong mixed breds are great. Some times ( I think) breeding two diff. dogs could maybe make them better or act better. I had a poodle & a maltese and made a Maltepoo which is gorgeous and a pug and a beagle makes a wonderful Bugle. But I have a question : How can it make them more unhealthy? I love both just get what you want and no purebreeds can be exactly pure either
February 9th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Take a basic course in genetics people: pure breeding increases the incidence of double recessive gene expression = MORE disorders. Mixes have fewer genetic disorders (hip displaysia, cancers, kidney disfunction and many other congenital problems). Got nothing to do with environment-induced illnesses, but it is true that purebreds have a higher risk of genetic disease, this is why registering a purebred requires certain diagnostic testing before breeding, to reduce the diseases in the breed.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:47 am
I think it all depends on the combination of breeds. There are some mutts that are perfectly healthy. Of course, most of those are not considered “designer” breeds. There are some breeds that just shouldn’t be combined.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:57 am
I really don’t think it matters.By mixing two breeds you get a hole different DNA with different diseases.For example:You mix a long haired dog which usually has eye diseases with a short haired dog.Does the puppy inherit the eye disease if it has short hair?Think of mixed breeds as of totally different breeds.They might not inherit any of the parent’s problems.I have a pure breed dog and a mixed one.All that I can say is that the mixed one is much smarter than the pureb one and i haven’t had any health problems with it.And I love them equally.It seems to me that you are an anti mixed breeds
February 10th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I agree!!! The problem is getting through to the ones that believe the dumb myths.
The reason people believe they are healthier is because there are no health screenings or hip/elbow certification done on Mutts, so no records are kept on mutts. Pure bred owners do these test to breed problems out of the breed. Where as the designer dog breeders do nothing except collect cash for their mutts.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
just because a dog is pure or mixed doesn’t mean it will be healthier. you will notice an illness in a pure breed faster because, first you more than likely pain more. second you know what to look for so you are looking for signs of a particular problem.
bottom line
a healthy dog is a healthy dog
a dog with problems , is a dog with problems.
many health issues are very minor in nature, so in a mutt you might not notice.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
i think the reason people say mixed are healthier is because so often in purebred dogs,they are bred within engrained -genetic health problems. a great breeder will have genetic tests done and not breed the problem.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
i agree, mutts are not healther than purebreeds. infact, they take on the health problems of both breeds. besides, they basicly dont do any of either of things that the origanal breeds were breed to do.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
The fact is that there is a much smaller gene pool in pure bred dogs then there is mixed breed dogs so generally mixed breed dogs are not as susceptible to genetic diseases. Many diseases have to be carried on both sides of the pedigree in order to express themselves. The chances of this happening in a smaller gene pool are higher then the huge array of genes in mutts. I do not condone mixed breeding. But from everything I have read there seems to be some support to the notion that mixes are healthier, hardier and it makes sense.
The inbreeding of dogs is not like inbreeding humans. Common misconception. When you inbreed or line breed you double up on both good and bad genes but done properly inbreeding of dogs is a good thing.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:59 am
I totally agree with you.
February 11th, 2010 at 5:10 am
its not true. but it is true that pug will have more health problems than say a collie. b/c of their facial structure. etc
February 11th, 2010 at 7:54 am
I don’ t necessarily agree. Mixed breeds have a better chance not to suffer from the disease of the “breed”. If you have a breed like pugs, who have particular problems, and breed that pug to say a border collie or whatever. The border collie doesn’t have the same gene pool as the pug, and half of the genes will be from one dog and the other half from the pug. Diseases do not show in every pup of the litter, but is random, by mixing genes, you increase the randomness of the genes matching up and causing disease. I’m no scientist, but this is the theory that mixed breed enthusiast work upon. You do not double the diseases, but acutally dilute them.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:22 am
It is the inbreeding of the pedigrees that causes the health problems. Mixed breeds have less of chance to inherit the two bad genes that causes defects at the same time. Look at what happens to humans that inbreed, the same is true in all animals. Inbreeding, maintaining the breed, enhances defects.
February 11th, 2010 at 9:54 am
i guess it would depend on the breeds that are in the mix. behavior wise, they tend to be better. but those genetic problems that often crop up in purebreds, they stay in the purebred because they continue to have the same gene passed on over and over that causes the health problem. but throw in a breed that doesn’t normally have that genetic defect and often times the health problem gets “fixed” because the new gene is dominant to the old one and over shadows it, causing the dog to not have the problem any more. it’s basic genetics really. they are still carriers for the health problem but don’t display it like the pures do. that’s why people say they’re healthier. now, no, not all mixbreeds are healthier, your pugasset (lol, I love that name. so weird) would not be a very healthy dog unless the breed continued to breed out the defects, but then the dog likely wouldn’t look anything like the origional F1 generation of pups. so, really it all depends on what is mixed together.
February 11th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
You think these things over too long, who cares what people say. I like all kinds of dogs. Chill.
February 11th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
In the first generation(F1) the pups if chosen from 2 different breed that do not share like genetic problems, they will less likely have genetic problems because they are diluted, but if you breed a pair of F1 ’s together then you increase the number of problems because bothe dogs will be carrying genetic problems from both lines, so you could potentially double the health issues
This is why shi-poos, goldendoodles and all other designers dogs will never become a true breeds, because any smart breeder knows you have to produce hybrids or F! (meaning using only purebred parents) inorder to sell healthy puppies.
where you run into problems is when people buy these dogs and decide to become breeders themselves and start breeding f1 dogs together , they have no idea of the genetic chaos they are causing and the offspring will be worse than any purebred for health issues, because you have recombined the genes
February 11th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
When breeding animals together, the closer the dogs are genetically, the more likely you will get genes that result in problems. This is because many problems require that the dog not only have one gene that is the problem, it requires that the dog have two to be affected. Many genetic problems in dogs are caused by genes that are undetectable (without dna testing) if the dog only has one gene – called a carrier. The disease won’t be expressed unless the dog receives one from each parent. By breeding two dogs of the same breed together you’re more likely to double up on the gene that causes that problem. By outcrossing to something else, you may get other problem genes but less likelihood of the same gene coming togther. The more distantly related the breeds are, the less likelihood that they’ll share the same genetic problems.
With mixed breeds you may still get genetic problems, the difference is that if you don’t know what breeds were involved in making the dog, it’s difficult to determine which problems you might get.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
I think it is what it is. Mixed dogs can live a long time or die early and so can purebreeds. It’s kind of like people some very unhealthy people live a long life and very fit people die early in life. I don’t think one or the other is better. I do however think that mixing two different pure breeds together and then giving it some designer dog name and selling it for thousands is crazy when you can go to the humane society and get one for a lot less.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
I agree with you know that you explain it. It is stupid that people say that.
February 12th, 2010 at 3:31 am
Well, the way you have worded your question, it seems that if I dont agree with you, you would call me stupid anyway …
I don’t see any point in your asking this question and anybody answering it !
February 12th, 2010 at 7:08 am
OH YES!!!!
While I know that the aphorism that mutts are healthier than purebred dogs is a popular one, it happens to be completely untrue. When bred carefully by a responsible
breeder, a purebred is less likely to exhibit health issues because those breeders work extremely hard to eradicate them from the breed. They will eliminate any dog from their breeding program who manifests them or whose
ANCESTORS, (on their pedigree) have manifested or produced them in their offspring. Responsible breeders also do health screenings and genetic testing on their dogs.
When bred carelessly by a backyard breeder, a purebred who, let say carries three of the health issues known to the breed, is bred to a dog of the same breed who is similarly a carrier, they will then produce puppies with a possibility
of inheriting those THREE issues. However, if crossed with a different breed of dog who is carrying three of the defects of that particular breed, may produce puppies who now have a likelihood of inheriting a possible SIX
genetic health issues or defects. This is one of the reasons the purposeful crossing of two breeds to create mutts dubbed as “designer dogs” is so very irresponsible and a scam on the public.